advice for warm water

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advice for warm water

Postby agglutination » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:10 pm

Well, I'm taking my new tenkara rod out for its first session tomorrow. Actually, I'm going carp fishing, but that typically involves a lot of sitting. I decided that instead of waiting for carp I could spend that time fishing the lake margins for panfish.

I could really use some advice on flies and presentation though. It's most lilly pads along the banks, and the water is farily well stained (I'm in Texas). It's about as far from gin clear mountain trout streams as you can get. Thanks.
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Re: advice for warm water

Postby JWJFisherCA » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:36 pm

You could just tie on a good old panfish popper or try something that imitates a grasshopper. From my fishing experience back in Illinois I remember panfish biting on just about anything. Just watch what you throw between those lily pads. You could hook a bass and be in for a real fight! :P
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Re: advice for warm water

Postby agglutination » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:55 pm

I think that is a risk I'm willing to take :D. I'll give the poppers a shot in the morning. I tied up some traditional tenkara flies that I may use once the sun comes out strong. I'd love know that the same fly can catch brook trout and little sunfish.
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Re: advice for warm water

Postby rsetina » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:27 pm

agglutination wrote:I think that is a risk I'm willing to take :D. I'll give the poppers a shot in the morning. I tied up some traditional tenkara flies that I may use once the sun comes out strong. I'd love know that the same fly can catch brook trout and little sunfish.


I know they'll catch brook trout. Hope you do well with the pan sunfish too. Good luck and let us know how it was.
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Re: advice for warm water

Postby jbenenson » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:10 am

I think that a beetle (with legs) is better than a popper. It is less frightening to the fish. I have caught more bluegills using it than any other "fly".
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Re: advice for warm water

Postby CM_Stewart » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:39 am

agglutination wrote:I'd love know that the same fly can catch brook trout and little sunfish.


I've never tried the rubber legged beetle, though I've heard a lot of good things about them for sunfish. I can say that sunfish seem to love a sakasa kebari, and you can certainly catch brook trout on them, too.
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Re: advice for warm water

Postby wrknapp » Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:29 pm

I don't think there is a fly or small popper or rubberlegged foam spider a bluegill won't take.

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Re: advice for warm water

Postby rvrgzr » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:48 pm

Depending on the water fished and the size of the fish targeted, bluegill can be quite selective, as more than a few fly fishers to my pond can attest. When I'm 'prospecting' to see what the fish want at a given time, I'll often tie on a sponge spider, elk hair caddis, or any sizable dry fly and drop an unweighted gold ribbed hare's ear a foot or two below the dry. The fish will let you know what they want: dry or nymph.

If the fish aren't aggressively feeding, cast to a likely spot and wait...and wait. I've sat on my dock and watched a large bluegill lie just beneath a dry fly for 10 minutes before it made up its mind. And often I'll just let the fly rest immobile on the water's surface. The fish take or they don't.

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Re: advice for warm water

Postby Jay K » Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:05 am

rvrgzr wrote:I've sat on my dock and watched a large bluegill lie just beneath a dry fly for 10 minutes before it made up its mind.


Interesting... Very interesting... I doubt I'd have the patience for 10 minutes - too much like fishing bait, but with your experience in mind, I'll try leaving a fly in place longer that I'd normally.
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Re: advice for warm water

Postby rvrgzr » Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:05 am

Jay K wrote:
rvrgzr wrote: I doubt I'd have the patience for 10 minutes - too much like fishing bait...


A dry fly placidly sitting on the surface of a deep, slow current pool is much like fishing "bait", but then, a fly is artificial bait, isn't it? It has been my experience that the slower the water, the slower the fish is to take a fly, simply because it has more time to inspect it. Sure, I enjoy dropping weighted nymphs into small plunge pools where the strikes are often savage, and the fish rarely large, but there are times when it's fun to attempt to outwit a big, veteran fish who owns a hole. I'm not often successful, but it is fun.

And I am a proponent of the most-of-us-fish-too-fast school of thought.
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